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cur-mud-geon: anyone who hates hypocrisy and pretense and has the temerity to say so; anyone with the habit of pointing out unpleasant facts in an engaging and humorous manner

Village Buzz - July 9th

By Al Campbell
Wednesday, Jul 9 2008, 10:38 AM

I have been on a brief vacation and, due to my own short-sightedness, was unable to publish new Blogs during that week.  I have received several emails during that period offering further comments or chastising for things said by me or some of those who have commented.  I'll set the essence of those thoughts forward in this piece.

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Trustee Dean Wolter has called into question several of the items in the first two Village Buzz Blogs:

He has indicated that he believes that the opinions I advanced as to my feeling that President Kempinski might be making himself a committee of one "is uncalled for, unsubstantiated by any facts, and made simply for the purpose and effect of comments to your Blog".  I have, unfortunately, come to have those feelings as I alluded.  It may well be that I'll change my feelings over the course of time, and I'll probably mention that if that happens.

I wondered if the signage in the front of Sendik's was of proper size.  Trustee Wolter advised that my "Statements to the signage of Sendik's ..being oversized is not accurate.  The Germantown Village Board has passed several changes to the sign section of the Municipal Code, allowing for taller and bigger signs to be placed at business entrances."

He has also criticized a comment that was offered by former President Charlie Hargan where he wrote that "The Village code state that the Planner has jurisdiction over the trees in Germantown, planting and removal.  He found out about them being removed only after it was done."

Trustee Wolter wrote: "Charlie Hargan's comment following your notes again is left to stand unabated and is in-correct.  I re-read the Germantown Municipal code, section 17.60 on Trees, and it does not state that the Village Planner has jurisdiction over the trees on public property.  I would like to have past president Hargan state which section of the code he is getting his information.  His statements are baseless, and incorrect."

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I appreciate the emails from Trustee Wolter and invited him to exercise his option to write comments if he wished to do so.  I do express my opinions often and I recognize that some may be polarizing.  Those who agree or disagree are free to post their comments.  I am forbidden from editing any comment.  I can remove a comment in full if I believe it is in poor taste, but those decisions are subject to review by the editors of the Community Now organization.

My opinions are obviously based on something or I wouldn't have them.  As with most everybody, I interact with a wide range of people and read and hear a wide range of information.  All this goes into the development of an opinion.  I cannot point to a specific 'fact' that caused an opinion to crystallize.  There may not be any 'facts' to which I could point, but I still have opinions.  My opinions may be out in left field; if that is the case from your perspective, so be it.  Help me change my opinion with more/better information or comment with your counter-opinion.

People in public office are in the public eye; that is simply the way it is.  We each will have varying opinions concerning those folks.  We'll probably agree with some actions and disagree with other actions.  I've often found that an initial opinion altered over time.  Similarly, I've also found that an initial opinion was proved to have been warranted. 

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Finally, there may be some who might believe I'm anti-Sendik's.  That couldn't be further from the truth.  I am very excited about more competition in our community.  I will be a regular shopper when the new store opens.  I've not picked on our other grocery establishments lately but certainly could've since there is much to be desired.  The opening of a tough competitor will be the best cure for poor selection and/or poor service elsewhere.

Comments

BigTimeBad   

I, too, am looking forward to the opening of Sendik's.  I dread going into the "other" establishment located just west of the new Sendik's.  Just the other day, one of their baggers decided to put my bananas in the same bag as my bar soap and kitchen cleaner.  And there is one cashier which I refuse to go trough her line now because she was extremely rude to me on a recent visit.  And the parking lot is a nightmare when the snow is piled up in the back of the lot.  I could go on and on....  

July 9, 2008 1:48 PM

Charlie Hargan   

"Code 17.60 Trees: reads in section(3) (a) 1. It shall be the responsibility of the Planner to study, investigate, counsel, and develop and/or update, and administer a written plan for the care, preservation, pruning, planting, replanting, removal or disposition of trees and shrubs in parks, along streets, and in other public places."

 How is the Planner supposed to administer the written plan if others are doing things without his knowledge?

 I also believe that the sign is larger than the initial code allows but the new code change gives the Plan Commission the authority to approve larger sized signs where they feel it is warrented. That's fine . I never said it was an illegal size sign, just an oversized sign.

 Trustee Wolter & I may disagree but at least he responds to things.

July 9, 2008 1:56 PM

fact finder   

As I view the most recent Blogs from Curmudgeon it would appear he has alligned himself with former defeated elected officals. I will explain my rational in arriving to this conclusion. Most recently I was troubled when I viewed a Blog that inferred the Village President violated Village Code. After doing my own research which i would hope Curmudgeon would do I discovered a major attempt to discredit the current Village President.

I looked up the Village code online and discovered a major misleading quote. Mr Hargan cites Village Code 17.60 (3)(a)1. "It shall be the responsibility of the Planner to study" when in fact it states "It shall be the responsibility of the (plan) to study". How can one make such a mistake? I have not found one quote from the current Village President in any of Curmudgeons Blogs so it is apparent that the only source of information for Curmudgeon is the Charles Hargan and some of his defeated freinds.

You have not reponded to being a fellow church member of Charles Hargan and that you regularly meet with Charles and some of the other defeated board members at George Webb. Is this true and can we count on you to be unbiased and fact finding in relating information to us?

It is apparent that you have now changed the direction of you writings and I can not rely on you for fact based information. Is this new attitude only for effect in trying to get others to repond.

Your statement above is more troubling and really infers what we can expect in the future from your Blogs. "My opinions are based on something or I wouldn't have them. What the heck is something? You interact with a wide range of people".

Please change your Blog name because you do not qualify as a real Curmudgeon. A Curmudgeon points out unpleasant facts, but by your own admission you have formulated an opinion based on absoluetly nothing but other opinions and not facts.

Consider changing your Blog name to Slingmudgeon

July 12, 2008 12:27 AM

What is the problem   

We truly love as Youth in Germantown watching the battles between the adults!!!  The comments made make you guys and ladies look so foolish!!!  

If you are going to comment to this blog, do so, if you are going to comment to Charlie Hargan, do so, but you continue to come on under different names and continue to mud sling!!!  Fact - learn to spell the words too!!!  I read this blog, and love the interesting comments- when they are comments to that specific article - not continuing to discuss George Webb's breakfast - you could join, but your too busy at McDonald's with the other group of boys!!!  Try to focus on the point at hand, not the hate you have for Charlie Hargan!!!

Charlie Hargan has done more for Germantown in the life I've lived here, than anyone has!!!  He still works with the youth, fills the bird feeders, donates to the parade, shows up at all openings and events important to Germantown, plants in the planters at the library on his own, bakes for Germantown Junior Women's Club Holly Day Fair, and continues to be someone I want to be like when I am an adult in Germantown!!  He has a heart of gold, and when there was heart in Germantown, this fighting didn't exist!!!

Tell me why I watched a parade that had only one three trustees in the parade (two with the American Legion) and one as a Trustee?  I could ask this question forever as to where these guys are, for many events, but I know they'd have some type of answer, just to make themselves happy!!!  

Fact - look at the things you continue to defend, and let me know if you hate Charlie Hargan that much. or just the fact that right now things are not being followed, and you hate that people are noticing?

Okay, off the Trees, and why is Sendik's allowed to rip a parking lot up without there every being anything in front of any committee to approve that one - oh - it's Sendik's!!!  Explain to me - I don't shop yet, so if Sendik's is where our groceries might come from, great, but why we are bending over for Sendik's?  I too was confused with the trees, and thought it was crazy that we just rip them down because, put street lights up, because, let them rip up a parking lot, because - tell me the because, and maybe Fact, I will start to see your side of this vicious hate!!!  You call your self a Fact Finder - find the answers for me!!!

WOW - Can you tell I haven't blogged for awhile!!!  This is the worst showing of adults - I can't wait to run for office here in Germantown, and bring the heart and soul back into our community!!!

Find the facts - FACT - I'd love to know the answers!!!

July 12, 2008 4:40 PM

fact finder   

I am not a Charlie hater but I do not like it when I rely on what I consider to be credible people stating non facts. You totally ignored what I exposed in that Mr. Hargan changed the language and Curmudgeon ran with it as if it were the gospel.

Come clean and admit you are a Charles Hargan supporter it is obvious. For someone to claim to know the involvement of the former president in so many positive things for the Village of Germantown would only mean that you are that involved. I do not base my support or non support of a person based on their involvement with organizations within the community. I recently witnessed an election where a candidate threw her involvement in various charitable organizations as qualifications and that would make her the bast qualified candidate.

Voters clearly decided that race by not choosing a candidate based on a resume of involement but of a clear mission statement and direction the Village should go. That person was so full of herself.

Now you attack the Village Board for what you consider a violation of some code in regards to the asphalt repaving. If you are correct why don't you call the Village Planner and register your complaint. You even make the inference that the Board has bent over backwards for Sendik's. I am very happy to see that mall revitalized keep up the good work Village Board. I continue to see many positive things occuring in the Village.

You seem to display a form of hate of the Village Board. I did not know that if you are elected you are required to attend every function within the village. Board members attendance at holiday functions is not a requirement of office and I did not vote for my representative based on being involved in parades. I do know that there was a new person running the parade and that may have been the reason some chose not to attend. She was a candidate for trustee this past April and is not liked by many people. In watching a previous Village Board meeting to the 4th of July holiday, the President announced he regreted not attending but would be spending that holiday with his ailing parents. Shame on you grow up.

I do not know what you are refering to in regards to George Webb and McDonalds but if you could enlighten us please do so. One would assume that you know something about both. It appears you spend to much time on the street and at to many functions, let us not forget you are a child and should be in school. Do not hide under the umbrella of using the children as a reason that someone should not see adults agree or disagree. The facts are crystal clear you know every move Charles Hargan makes, how is this possible for a High School Student.

The Facts are that you are an adult out of High School, and a close friend of the former Village President. You continue, along with this small group of your friends to slam the Village Board with the assistence of Curmudgeon.

Lets move on to reporting all the positive things going on in the Village for the Adults and Childrens sake.    

July 13, 2008 12:12 AM

What is the problem   

Fact -

The same person ran the parade last year, because our group participated in it!!!  So if that was the excuse, that they don't like the person - guess what you are probably stuck with them forever, so be babies!!!

I don't hate our board, I do like some - more than half as a matter of fact!!!  I just wish they could make decisions.

Have you ever gone to the library and seen Charlie Hargan planting an ask what he is doint?  Have you ever seen him up at Village Hall filling bird feeders?  Have you seen his name in the paper as a donator for all the things I've mentioned?  So, be intelligent, I don't have to be his friend, or hang out with him, to know what he does!!!

As for the Trustee who stated the groups she's involved in - prove her wrong!!!  She didn't brag, she put them on her flyer!!!  She is involved in more things in Germantown, and if you asked the youth to vote - she'd win!!  She cares more about Germantown, and continues to bring new ideas for families and youth, and also works with the seniors when she can!!!

Brag - she never did!!  I have read Dean Wolter sign his name as the Chairman of the Economic Developmental Committee, and since April I have not seen a meeting yet!!!

When you have disabilities in Germantown as a youth, you tend to send your vision other places!!!  Your want to try and bring me down - go for it!!!

Find the facts Fact - you speak out of hate and not out of your love for Germantown!!!

Take it down a level and find the facts and give us good reasons for you spilling your stuff!!!

July 13, 2008 2:03 PM

What is the problem   

Fact -

The same person ran the parade last year, because our group participated in it!!!  So if that was the excuse, that they don't like the person - guess what you are probably stuck with them forever, so be babies!!!

I don't hate our board, I do like some - more than half as a matter of fact!!!  I just wish they could make decisions.

Have you ever gone to the library and seen Charlie Hargan planting an ask what he is doint?  Have you ever seen him up at Village Hall filling bird feeders?  Have you seen his name in the paper as a donator for all the things I've mentioned?  So, be intelligent, I don't have to be his friend, or hang out with him, to know what he does!!!

As for the Trustee who stated the groups she's involved in - prove her wrong!!!  She didn't brag, she put them on her flyer!!!  She is involved in more things in Germantown, and if you asked the youth to vote - she'd win!!  She cares more about Germantown, and continues to bring new ideas for families and youth, and also works with the seniors when she can!!!

Brag - she never did!!  I have read Dean Wolter sign his name as the Chairman of the Economic Developmental Committee, and since April I have not seen a meeting yet!!!

When you have disabilities in Germantown as a youth, you tend to send your vision other places!!!  Your want to try and bring me down - go for it!!!

Find the facts Fact - you speak out of hate and not out of your love for Germantown!!!

Take it down a level and find the facts and give us good reasons for you spilling your stuff!!!

July 13, 2008 2:03 PM

Charlie Hargan   

In response to Factfinder, there must be a type-o in the code. How can a plan study a plan, investigate a plan, counsel or develop a plan? How can a plan administer a written plan? It can't. The Planner does that. A type-o is common, as seen in your 4th paragraph where you type "you writing" instead of "your writing".

I sure don't know where you come off saying the Curmudgeon and I are fellow church members. We are not. Also, I have had breakfast twice with Curmudgeon but I go to Webb's very often. I see lots of people there lots of times so I would not consider 2 times as regular meetings.

You really shouldn't be such a bitter person, whoever you are. Let the trees go, I have.

July 13, 2008 2:37 PM

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